Dorky and smart as hell Dr Bruce joins Adam in today’s informative podcast.
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@ lisa
Health care get worse?
I have to struggle to find a friend that has health care insurance. and if they do it has such a high deductible it is worthless.
looking up symptoms online to avoid inflated medical bills is my doctor… and most of my friends.
If you are a small business owner or the only work you can find right now is part time gigs you are fucked…
as far as taxes …. Let them cut the military budget.
Cut the military? great idea the world has really calmed down in the last year. Why not try things within the “Free Market” to bring costs down. Quick question d-bag how many friends do you have if only 36 out of 300+ million Americans don’t have Health Insurance
Great Podcast! Love ya Ace!!
let the free market do its thing?
look how that has worked out….
do i need to give examples
i would rather see some court reform and some regulation on insurance scams but lets face it the gov has proved it cant regulate anything.
also the free market is not so nice when you are looking for bargains with doctors. just google it…. insurance horror stories….
those are nice states you throw around. about as accurate as unemployment statistics. you need to wake up. there are tones of uninsured and there are even more with inadequate insurance. look at how many people go bankrupt with insurance… also if you have ever been to the er, you will find that insurance cost the patient more. you are better off not even claiming you have insurance in most cases
great free market system. hospitals billing double if the patient has insurance.
as far as military…
we would be far better off using the military budget to build infrastructure for new energy.
rather than surround the middle east oil field with tanks and make retarded cries for democracy…
if you are so wise. please answer this question. how does every other nation get by with 1/10 to 1/1000 the military budget?
be realistic. war and war gadgets is american buisness. It wont work in the long term.
Let me go through points one by one
I appreciate a well reasoned debate by the way
So a government option is a better idea, it won’t work without the the other reforms, and the government does nothing well, they will just make it worse.
My wife works in health care (an ER to be exact) and doctors will work with people, even give discounts for not having to deal with insurance companies, besides how will a gov’t option fix that?
Nobody is saying it’s a perfect system changes do need to be made but if like you said the Government can’t regulate squat why should we trust them to run the whole thing.
Medicare is worse by far
Isn’t that what that massive “stimulus” was for?
We will have to deal with them eventually. I don’t know if democracy will work but if we leave them alone they will come after us when they are ready
That’s easy Europe counts on the US to protect them, why else do we still have bases in Germany
If by “war gadgets” you mean the internet and GPS, two of the most profound technological advances in my life time, then I like our chances in the long term
Hey Guys, I recently bought my first i-Pod and was thrilled when I found out I could listen to Carolla everyday. I’ve been involved in some catch up, but will be on the daily here in the next several listens.
The argument with Donnie needs no justification, I can not count how many times I ask a question of someone in which if the entire situation is taken into account on the opposite end there is no need what so ever to explain yourself. The last thing you talked about was the wheels, he should have known what wheels you meant and besides, if someone is afraid of the wrath that may be, why let it occur?? You are a guest in a hospitable man’s place, have some respect.
On your Healthcare argument, I am an alcoholic with 4 years of continuous sobriety. What started my recovery was a two-week hospital stay after my body and mind started D.T’s. I did not hold a job so I did not have benefits and I certainly was not paying for private insurance. Still I was able to get to a hospital stay and I or anyone close to me has yet to pay any bills. It wasn’t a classy hospital or the best surroundings, heck, even the doctors were kind of rude. So to back up your point, yes, send whoever to county. I am alive today because of crappy conditions that would be considered a luxury in the other 90% of the world.
Keep getting it On Adam.
that is a nice idea that people with no money can get health care.
and in most cities as far as i know. if people dont have money they are not rejected.
The problem is not really with the broke poor. and not really with upper middle to super wealth class of people. the problem is with the middle class.
The middle struggles to pay for health and deals with high deductibles and only 70% of bills being payed… and that is with hospitals doubling the bill because the person has insurance.
also the problem is if you do work for an honest buck it is not uncommon to find yourself bankrupt after serious medical treatment. often in bed next to somebody not paying a dime for their treatment. also for small indi. buisness health insurance is not easy.
in sum: the problem is not for the super poor or super rich. it is that the the current system devistates the middle income people. and makes it hard for independent small buisness to start or exist. A system that works for the super rich and the super poor is not a health system.
It is true, medicine needs court reform. Lawyers are suing doctors over anything and driving cost through the roof.
and a public insurance option (similar to the post office competing with ups and fed ex) wont really do anything to stop the lawyers.
when i go to the hospital i get a reduced price because i dont have insurance. it is still very expensive. but the real problem is not that cost it is the cost if i have a chronic illness. such as cancer. and once you go into the hospital everything goes on your record and insurance companies wont touch you.
free markets dont make sense with health.
the obama plan to make private insurance companies approve sick people doesnt make sense as well.
– so when i call the insurance company and tell them i have cancer. they have to take me. ? that is crazy. it does not work in the free market.
realistically medicine will have to go to the models i see in italy and england. — similar to the way the va hospital is run. doctors are paid salary to fix as many people as possible.
it is much more efficient. and cost much less across the board. but the down side is that system cant keep people alive till there 90. there are death lists… or what ever they are called.
This plan that obama has seems to be the middle ground between the v. a. hospital model and what we have right now.
i think the (us post office) health insurnace modle will be better than the current situation. as far as money, the insurance is not free. people have to pay for it. and the it will create competition for doctors bill to go down. at least in theory.
i personally will take anything but what we have. i cant get insurance, an i cant get public help. i am the middle. the exact person that is getting screwed right now. so it is a black and white situation for me.
as far as military spending. it is true that most of are tech advances have come from military spending and trickled into the private sector. then produced by japan better than we produce it…
that was not really what i was talking about when i said reduce the military budget. i am talking about moving money from the war to secure oil. oil that is running out.
use that money to promote new energy research. building infulstructer to support new energy.
as far has health care. changes to current polocies will save the gov money. we have to remember that obamas plan is not free. there are many examples of social health care that cost far less than private health care.
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all of the above is obviously a debate and i am surely no expert.
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my point is Adam just preaches his one sided and pretty ill informed point of view.
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i am pretty much fed up with this show.
A. the format is getting really old. i did not even listen to the interviews on the 97.1 show.
adam needs a co host. somebody to bounce off
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A adam likes to rant ….. and bring up serious topics that are really important to many people but he is fails to really get beyond his simplistic rant.
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this is the worse adam in years. i am down to less than one download a week.
At least we agree there are no easy options
I think a No pre-existing clause should come with a contract not unlike cell phone companies. People would just abuse the system without it.
I really feel for your situation
Would something like making Health care insurance a tax deduction work for someone in your position?
The government just does such a terrible job with everything they touch,
The problem I see with salary doctors is the “best” will always go where the money is and losing them in the medical field will affect care.
I think you hit on the major problem in Health Care (and the toughest to fix) My Grandpa is 95 and has had 2 hip replacement surgeries in the last 6 months, then he lays in rehab. He has probably spent more in health care in the last year than his whole life and I just don’t see a humane way to solve this problem
Bottom line I’m glad I don’t have to try to come up with solutions
As for Adam I just try to remember he’s trying to be funny most of the time I respect his opinion because he has a lot of life experience but I just try not to get that worked up about what others say
I think he’s trying to get outside the box and be creative with the podcast right now and not everything is going to work
Most of the time I love what he’s doing
Good luck man
i have heard and been around many stories of family fortunes vanishing in the last year of a persons life. I dont want to sound crass but i think it at least worth hearing out the system where doctors basically give “grandma” morphine and tell the family she is going to die soon. and i know my grandma would prefer this today.
as far as the talent of doctors: yes talent will follow money. and if hospitals are paying wage. there still could be good and bad hospitals. and doctors making more $$ than others.
to be candid about the situation though. I think 90 to 99% of medical problems/ visits are not ‘who done its’ …they are routine. i dont think the idea that superstar doctors are necessary for most visits to the hospital. now when you get into surgery and more complex diognostics…. then you obviously want the best. let me put it this way. for most of my mail i go to the usps. but if i really want to be sure the package gets there i go to ups and fed ex. or put another way. public education worked well for me most of my life. but when i whent to graduate school i went to the best private school ….
i am not sure how you make a system like that work in health. but those are some thoughts.